so most would now know of the vile act in sydney last week where a man held hostage over 17 people in the lindt cafe in the middle of sydney.. two people were murdered...a beautiful, educated lawyer,loving mother of three, and a brave, loving young man working as the cafe manager.. this senseless and cruel act has touched everyone deeply, especially in the communities of sydney.
the outpouring of grief and support for the victims and their families has been immense.. i was therefore outraged to have the following comment made by a witness in conversation at the kingdom hall:.
"well, we dont need to be sad, because at least now they (the two victims) will get a ressurection.
I remember hearing a similar comment from an elder after 9/11. I believe his exact words were "It's 3000 people who wouldn't have survived armageddon anyway."
The ease with which they are able to detach themselves from such tragedies is staggering. There's no need to invest emotionally in the lives of non-jws, because their god will sort it all out.
oh i do enjoy a good laugh.
i watched the naked gun movie last night i was surprised at.
how funny it still is or maybe i was just in the mood for some silliness.
Loved all the Zucker bros. movies back in the '80s- Airplane, Top Secret, Naked Gun.
an athist made this casual statememt on another thread:.
this would suggest to me that there are at least some atheists that do have consistant beliefs.. .
as an atheist, how could he possibly trust the reason that suggests this to himself?
"Hello? Perry? Perry? Hello?"
The line has gone dead...
He's just imitating his god.
christians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.
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i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .
Cofty, you have to be born again of the Spirit. And I doubt you have been otherwise you wouldn't oppose the preaching of Jesus.
LOL. And yet, it's the atheists who are arrogant and condescending.
i am perhaps a bit behind on this but i have just listened to " grandma got run over by a reindeer " sung by elmo and patsy .
it got me to thinking about christmas songs in general ,so i thought a thread about people's favourite christmas songs would be good .
please share your fave christmas music , a carol or something more modern .to start i will list my best carol as hark the herald and my best ever chart song as santa claus is coming to town by bruce springsteen .
after all, it's a secular holiday not a religious holiday.. if i was still an active member, i think i would start a new tradition of celebrating festivus.
most likely no jws would come, but that's okay, it's a famiily holiday anyway.. what grounds would the elders have to disfellowship you?.
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If you talk about the elders during the airing of grievances portion they could get you for apostacy. And the metal pole has some sort of pagan origin, you can be sure.
yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.
well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.
even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.
Can you imagine being a JW and going out in service, and EVERY house has already been contacted with one of these tracts?
Or the majority of them will treat you with the same level of indifference that they treat actual JWs when you show up uninvited to their homes.
in another topic "just quit quietly - the law is on your side" there was a lot of discussion about how to leave quietly without getting tagged publicly as "no longer a jw".
here are some legal cases that could be used to show support for leaving quietly.. you have to first send a letter saying you're leaving that specific congregation, and that you don't want them to keep records of you.. if the boe says anything against you here are some court cases that make precedent for bringing a suit against them:.
baugh v. thomas (1970).
Ditto what ptt said.
i just worry for my stepkids about their future that way..
I managed to avoid getting baptized until I was 19. Had I been able to put it off a couple more years, when my doubts started to surface, I probably would have avoided it altogether. Unfortunately, there was an aggressive, utrazealous elder in my congregation who wouldn't let that happen.
christians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.
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i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .
Just curious. Why do you imply having a belief in Jesus is flawed as well as the Witnesses' beliefs? I'm sorta in the middle between Atheism and Christianity. Haven't really decided which of the two is right.
The implication is that the entire bible is bogus, not just the JWs interpretation of it. What's also bogus is anyone's claims to "know the real Jesus".
